Monday, October 21, 2013

Premier Series Classic, Elite: Bullet Review

In October 2013 I picked up a fine Premier kit from the UK. Here's what I got:
  • Premier Series Elite, Maple, 12x9 and 16x16 toms
  • Premier Series Classic, Maple, 22x18 kick drum
  • Update - Summer 2014: I added a 10x8 Maple Elite 
Update: January 2015
I love these drums more and more each time I play them! They are the only drums I've played that can actually make a set of Evans Hydraulic sound explosive instead of dead.

Now read on to see my original analysis and impressions....

Finish
  • Lovely black sparkle with no flaws detected 
  • Compared to the finish on the Natal I recently owned, this is superior
  • In short, top-flight professional finish

Shells
  • Thin maple shells - not reinforced
  • Everything seems very round
  • The toms have perfect edges
  • Internal lacquer in order
  • Very minor rough spot on the inside of the kick at the tom mount (where they drilled the hole for the tom mount)

Hoops/Rims
  • The ultra-classy die-cast hoops on the Elite toms are my favorite thing about this kit
  • They are elegant, tasteful, not too bulky
  • Really lovely with their rounded lines, matching well with the oval Classic/Elite lugs
  • The kick drum hoops were fine, flawless
  • They are low-profile, which means you can position somewhat lower that with standard hoops
  • Also, if you are sloppy, the low-profile hoops help prevent mistaken rim shots ;-)

Rods, lugs
  • Standard rods; all were straight (which is not always such an easy achievement -- for example, on my Natal a few rods were a bit off)
  • The design of the oval lugs is a matter of personal taste. I like 'em!
  • One unique feature of these lugs is the "nyloc inserts" that are intended to prevent de-tuning. The inserts create a tighter feel when you screw in a rod. This makes a head change slightly more effort, in particular on the kick. I can't finger-tighten the kick rods as a result. 
Update: July 17, 2015: While playing a song in which I ride the rims pretty hard, three of the six lugs de-tune completely. It's safe to say the Nyloc inserts are pretty useless. Sorry to say.
  • The kick claws are another favorite of mine. Check the design. Quite lovely.

Spurs
  • The kick spurs are solid, they were squeaky and stiff on arrival, but a little silicon spray solved that 
  • Originally I said "Not the smoothest gear I've seen on a high-end kit" but now that I've had it longer, I need to say this is a solid kit.
  • For example, I also picked up a Yamaha Club Custom. While it is a different beast altogether, it feels very light in comparison. For a tour, I'd choose the Series kit. Solid gear.

Sound
  • First off, let me say I tune with the assistance of a Tune-Bot
  • With Ambassador X heads and stock Ambassador Clear reso I had trouble controlling head ring. That is, regardless of the tuning I always ended up with a very long resonant sound with a musical ring. This is not a problem in itself. In fact, it could be considered a great thing, as you probably know!
  • HEAD COMBO UPDATE. Ambassador X top with Coated Ambassador bottom gave musical and pleasant tone at a relatively high tuning. I lost some of the explosiveness I had with the Clear Vintage Emperor, but the drums really sing now in a nice way. I chalk it up to the coated reso as a natural pair for the Ambassador X.
  • When I switched to Clear Vintage Emperor, I found that this exceptional resonance became a huge asset. The drums became explosive, with a lovely low frequency musical tone. On other drums I've found Clear Vintage Emperor too dead for my taste. But they are truly wonderful on these Elite toms. It seems to be a great combination for a deep, explosive rock sound that is still lively and resonant. 
  • The Clear Vintage Emperors also work well tuned up a bit to around a 2A. They lose a little of that "feel it in your guts" feeling, but give a more musical tone for pop or jazz.
  • I really look forward to experimenting with other heads! My theory is that the 3mm undersizing of the shells helps exaggerate the sound and resonance of the head. 
  • Maybe we can say that these drums favor "Head resonance" over "shell resonance"?
  • For example, for rehearsals I put on some Evans Hydraulic Glass that I had on hand. On these drums, even the Hydraulic heads sing! I was amazed, but it's true. On my Yamaha Club Customs the hydraulics went THUD, but on the Series kit they actually ring out with a nice mellow note.
  • So far my impression is that these drums have less of that "typical modern Maple drums" sound. Again, I think it has to do with the undersizing and extra "head resonance" over "shell resonance"?
  • My impression is that I'm getting more attack and highs than I had with my Natal Maple. I reserve the right to add details here!
  • On my Pearl MHX I found the die-cast "MasterCast" hoops deadened the sound, but these Premier die-cast hoops don't seem to have the same impact. I think they are simply lighter? Certainly they are prettier!

Tom mount
  • Luckily I have a single tom mount since the double tom mount I've seen in photos is bulky and unattractive to me and some of my friends
  • It's a standard old-school ball mount: solid and reliable
  • The flush suspension system is elegant, but I admit I prefer solutions that don't mount through the tuning rods. This makes head change annoying. But the aesthetics are in order.
  • With the flush mount, I was getting some buzz from the suspension mount making contact somewhere. It's the only problem I've had with these drums.
  • Also, the metal on the suspension system is not filed very well. It sits very close to the drum, so the slightly rough edge could scratch the finish. I put a little electric tape on the rough edge just to be sure.
  • Overall it seems the flush ISO suspension mount is the Achilles' Heal of these drums
  • UPDATE September 2014. The excellent folks at Premier in the UK provided "British Collection" ISO mounts for my Elite toms. These work better with the die-cast hoops. While I still dislike "through the rod" solutions, the toms are floating nicely and all buzzing is long-gone
  • TIP: If you pick up one of these kits with die-cast hoops, consider getting "British Collection" mounts. 
Elite with "British Collection" ISO mount
Overall build
  • To me, this feels like any other solid modern Pro-level kit 
  • High-end for sure, but this does not feel like an ultra high-end kit 
  • Pardon the car analogy, but I'd call this a solid Honda or Mazda or even an Audi, not a Bentley (that's a complement, I think). 
  • (Premier does have a "Bentley" line (One series, or their new Modern Classic) but they are in another price category.)
  • If you can get one for a solid price, you will be happy
  • Great modern drums if you get them for the right price (since the list prices I see on Amazon and many sites make no sense at all)

What's the difference between Classic and Elite?
Classic and Elite = Same shells
  • As far as I can tell, nothing except the badge and the die-cast rims on the toms. 
  • The finish is absolutely the same. 
  • Based on my reading of Premier marketing material and other sites, Classic came only in shell packs in limited finishes. My kick was an orphan who is now happy with its Elite brothers.

3 comments:

  1. Okay, my second try, messed up all the text;) To make shorten up, yesterday i got a Classic Maple in Rainforest Sparkle, and as i found your Review here, a "Hurray" came out of my mouth, so as you say, the Classic isn´t very diferent to the Elite, cause a got an very reasonable price.... One question, do you actually know if the Classic is actually "Made in England", i just found one Review, saying that, i don´t know if its true. Cheers from Austria, Alex

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    1. Hi Alex, Congrats on your Series kit! To my knowledge, both the Elite and Classic have been made in Taiwan for a number of years now. I don't know the exact year when they moved production, but it has been a few years for sure. The UK-made kits seem to have a special "Handmade in England" label around the air vent grommet. While I'm not 100% sure, I think all "Big P" badged Classic kits are Made in Taiwan. Regarding Taiwan production, many folks consider Taiwan a respectable source for high-end drums. The workers and factories there have had many years to build up expertise. I've owned Pearl and Natal drums from Taiwan. Pearl hardware (from around 2002) never impressed me, but the shells and sound was amazing. My Natal, from 2012, was also a wonderful high-end kit.

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    2. Thanks for your fast answer, yes i have no problem, if its mad in Taiwan, as i have had now about three days time with the new Kit and i can directly compare to my old Apk Kit. What i saw and felt its really perfectly made also the laquer finish as the chrome hardware part on the Classic. Its very stabile. Once, about lets say 10 years ago, i purchased another new kit for a price from the store around 1000€, this kit then was poor made, all very very lightweight and the chrome was very thin. I had to send it back... So i think this Classic Maple Drumset here was originally really set on an higher price-level, so i am pleased with Made in Taiwan ;) Cheers, Alex

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